NZ Info WW2

Basic info on DKW NZ 350's

Moderator: Mods

Post Reply
Panzer
Novize
Posts: 4
Joined: Sun May 18, 2014 10:01 pm

NZ Info WW2

Post by Panzer » Mon May 19, 2014 3:23 pm

Hello and thank you for adding me to this interesting board.

I live in Romania, Oradea and lately during my metal detection expeditions have come across motorcycle parts which I believe to be of World War 2 Wehrmacht NZ 350's.

For one of them I would like you help and support in propery identifying it. It's a plate I dug up yesterday and it belongs I believe to the carburetor (Vergaser) and it gives out specifications which I cannot figure out or pinpoint to some exact dimensions and shapes of the actual device.

Image

and 2 close-ups :

Image

Image

And here some other items I found belonging to this model, plate number and petrol controler by MZAG. Can you tell me more details about MZAG ? Also the plate has been restored via oxalic acid bath but sadly the markings on it vanished along with the rust and 70 years burried in the ground...

Image

Image

Image

Image

Image

Thank you kindly for your help
Nasenbär
Assistant Mechanic
Assistant Mechanic
Posts: 150
Joined: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:35 pm

Re: NZ Info WW2

Post by Nasenbär » Tue May 20, 2014 11:18 pm

Hallo,
The plate gives the settings of a Solex? carburetor. I am sure it has nothing to do with DKW NZ. MZAG is Motorenwerke Zschopau Aktiengesellschaft, that produced DKW motorcycles. It was a part of the Auto Union. You find the MZAG sign on many DKW parts.
Best Regards, Matthias
martdapp
Master Mechanic
Master Mechanic
Posts: 950
Joined: Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:46 am
Location: Hoensbroek Niederlande

Re: NZ Info WW2

Post by martdapp » Fri May 23, 2014 3:53 pm

On the plaquette is written beneeth 'Auf die Schwungscheibe', possible a clou.
Nasenbär
Assistant Mechanic
Assistant Mechanic
Posts: 150
Joined: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:35 pm

Re: NZ Info WW2

Post by Nasenbär » Fri May 23, 2014 6:36 pm

"Auf der Schwungscheibe" relates to the ignition timing. 9mm on the flywheel after the pistons is on top. This is not NZ.
TM250
Tool Cleaner
Tool Cleaner
Posts: 56
Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:25 pm
Location: Norway

Re: NZ Info WW2

Post by TM250 » Sun May 25, 2014 2:43 pm

Hallo,

I thought MZAG which appears on many DKW pre-war bikes stood for "Metalwerke Zöblitz AG" one of many J.S. Rassmussens companies.
Nasenbär
Assistant Mechanic
Assistant Mechanic
Posts: 150
Joined: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:35 pm

Re: NZ Info WW2

Post by Nasenbär » Sun May 25, 2014 8:36 pm

Hello,
Sorry, I think TM250 is right. I was confused, because the factory was always called Zschopauer Motorenwerke AG, the products were called DKW. Sorry for that.
Panzer
Novize
Posts: 4
Joined: Sun May 18, 2014 10:01 pm

Re: NZ Info WW2

Post by Panzer » Sun Jun 08, 2014 12:18 am

So, I'm confused too now. Are these from an DKW NZ 350 or not ? How about the carburetor plate ? Until now I saw you questioning me, who came here to question you :?

Thanks a bunch mates for clearing it up ... I hope
Frank
SUPPORTER 2016
SUPPORTER 2016
Posts: 422
Joined: Thu Nov 19, 2009 8:23 pm
Location: Finland

Re: NZ Info WW2

Post by Frank » Sun Jun 08, 2014 9:15 am

Hi Panzer,

The alu plate and the fuel tap are not from a DKW NZ, rather from some other German vehicle or engine.

//Frank
Nasenbär
Assistant Mechanic
Assistant Mechanic
Posts: 150
Joined: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:35 pm

Re: NZ Info WW2

Post by Nasenbär » Sun Jun 08, 2014 7:42 pm

I was wrong about the meaning of the letzteres MZAG, I am sure about the Rest I wrote.
Panzer
Novize
Posts: 4
Joined: Sun May 18, 2014 10:01 pm

Re: NZ Info WW2

Post by Panzer » Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:53 pm

But I saw MZAG produced things for the NZ 350. What does MZAG stand for?
Nasenbär
Assistant Mechanic
Assistant Mechanic
Posts: 150
Joined: Sun Jun 16, 2013 8:35 pm

Re: NZ Info WW2

Post by Nasenbär » Sun Jun 08, 2014 10:24 pm

That is right, You find MZAG on parts of the brakes and wheels of the NZ 350, but also on other vehicles. It was a Factory, that made only parts like fuel taps.
TM250
Tool Cleaner
Tool Cleaner
Posts: 56
Joined: Sat Feb 26, 2011 7:25 pm
Location: Norway

Re: NZ Info WW2

Post by TM250 » Sun Jun 08, 2014 11:38 pm

Hallo,

As I have stated before, MZAG stands for Metalwerke Zöglitz AG. This factory was producing parts for DKW (and others) already in the late 20-ies and became part of the DKW boss Rasmussens "empire".

Regards
Panzer
Novize
Posts: 4
Joined: Sun May 18, 2014 10:01 pm

Re: NZ Info WW2

Post by Panzer » Mon Jun 09, 2014 1:16 am

How about the carburetor plate ? That cant be from a vehicle like a Kubelwagen but rather an NZ or other type of motorcycle by the specs. Any ideas guys ? The numer plate is clearly from an NZ and also the Benzimhahn no matter what you think. I saw this type of fuel gauge on an NZ 350 ...
RTWOLLE
Mechanic
Mechanic
Posts: 414
Joined: Sun Sep 06, 2009 6:06 pm
Location: Thüringen/Deutschland

Re: NZ Info WW2

Post by RTWOLLE » Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:36 am

This is the adjustment plate for a carburetor Solex 30 BFL, used for example in the jeep, but also stationary engines with 500cm3 as EL462.
In no event at the NZ 350-1.
look around in Google for Solex 30 BFL, which is indeed on the plate.
And you will find enough answers. Just do not DKW NZ 350
regards
RTWOLLE
IFA/DKW RT 125/RT 125n.A.
DKW NZ 350-1/ IZH 350
DKW KLM C 100/C 1/ GG 400/StL 462A
Post Reply