NZ 350-1 in Ebay

Post by **martdapp** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 10:05 pm

Looks very original?

http://cgi.ebay.de/DKW-NZ-350-1-Krad-We ... 335c328f2d

daveydachs · Post by **daveydachs** » Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:26 pm

not sure what's going on with the knee pads on the tank?

Post by **Wilhelm_Heidkamp** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:02 pm

The tank is from a SB 500, they had the knee pads.

Post by **RTWOLLE** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 2:50 pm

Tank SB 500, gas cap on the left?
RTWOLLE

Post by **martdapp** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 3:41 pm

The DKW-SB has the Tank-cap on the right, and does also not have the same form. The hole for the cap is also bigger, the smaller NZ-1 cap doesn't fit in a SB-tank.
Also the wire for the Petroltap is different on the SB-tank (and also at the NZ 350 1938-43). This tank shows the correct Petroltap.
I had also 2x such a tank once, perhaps it is from the first NZ-1 productions? They had the correct Fuel-hole and petroltap-wire.
I've seen several restaurated NZ-1's with such a Tank, but till now never on an (scare) original picture.

Even the tank from an early Russian IZH-350 1949 does not have that knee-protectors.
But perhaps that some-one has a original picture from a NZ-1 with those knee-protectors?

Picture of a IZH-49

Post by **RTWOLLE** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:27 pm

Thats a IZH 350 the years 1945-48? After 1948 the IZH 350 had a telegabel
The IZH 49 has a Telegabel also.
But the tank of Izh 350 was fast idently with NZ, only the wire of petrotap was an outwire.
Martin,your are right with the greats of petrolcap.
Greats
RTWOLLE

Post by **Frank** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 5:42 pm

Wolfgang has right, the bike on the pic is a IZH 350 and the only diffrence I have seen is the fuel tap thread and also that the IZH fuel tank misses the small holes for the small leafspring between tank and the frame.

Post by **Wilhelm_Heidkamp** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:47 pm

The cap can easily be welded on the other side of the tank. Have a look at the flat sides on pic 2 of the discussed bike, this is no NZ 350-1 tank! It could be a widened early 350 tank but it is not original.

Post by **RTWOLLE** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 6:49 pm

the tank of IZH 350 is a good alternative to tank of NZ
RTWOLLE

daveydachs · Post by **daveydachs** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:45 pm

my nz 43's don't have knee protectors and they still have the tank ignition

Post by **Wilhelm_Heidkamp** » Sat Apr 17, 2010 9:29 am

daveydachs wrote:my nz 43's don't have knee protectors and they still have the tank ignition

That´s another fact against the theory that rubbers were added again later in the war. In fact, rubber was deinstalled whereever it could, due to extreme rubber shortage in the last years of the war. (e.g. the little one beneath the tank, that was replaced by a metal strip) I don´t think that someone added rubbers again in the late war only for the driver`s comfort.
Every ship brought up by the german navy carrying rubber was sent back as a prize to germany even in early war to get only some rubber.

Post by **martdapp** » Sun Apr 18, 2010 8:49 pm

Welding the caphole to the other site is possible, I have such a tank. Then stays the fact that the hohle is to big for the NZ-1 petrol-cap as shown on the tank from the for sale NZ-1. I put in some pictures from my tank, it has indeed the older and wider caphohle and the holders for the knee-protectors. And also the old wire for the petroltap. But why and for what reason did they/some-one do that?

iz350 · Post by **iz350** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:20 pm

RTWOLLE wrote:Thats a IZH 350 the years 1945-48? After 1948 the IZH 350 had a telegabel
The IZH 49 has a Telegabel also.

RTWOLLE

Just to point some facts

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IZH-350 never had a telegabel from factory. IZH-350 was produced 1946-1952 and IZH-49 with telegabel and rear suspension was produced 1951-1957.

Frank wrote:Wolfgang has right, the bike on the pic is a IZH 350 and the only diffrence I have seen is the fuel tap thread and also that the IZH fuel tank misses the small holes for the small leafspring between tank and the frame.

Actualy all IZH-350 tanks have also those holes for steel leafspring(or ribbed rubber pad on later models) between tank and frame.

Post by **RTWOLLE** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 5:53 pm

I thought, the IZH 350 had Telegabel from 1948-51, the IZH 49 anyhow.
I have my informationen from the IZH 49-forum. However, one can also mistake, and I am glad for every information.
Greetings
RTWOLLE

Post by **martdapp** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 7:05 pm

I let it show before, the picture of the early IZH is shown in this topic.
It is hardly the same as the NZ-1, with a few modifications.
PS. the later IZH-model with the telegabel had a tank with knee-protectors, but this tank has also a negative IZH-emblem on the left site and a Toolbox with lid.